tcng

[green]

I recently discovered tcng; it seems like a great tool.

But: since I have started working with traffic shaping, I have found almost no
current documentation or tools.
- All the HOWTOs are old (though still useful).
- The LARTC.org index page does not seem to have been touched since 2005.
- The LARTC mailing list went down in 2005 and is still down.
- The latest upstream changelog for tcng is 2004.
- The tcng sourceforge page hasn't been touched since 2004.

Am I looking at all the wrong places? Where is the activity?

And: is tcng obsolete? Should I continue learning how to use it?

Thanks.

[Julien Vehent]

Post by green
I recently discovered tcng; it seems like a great tool.
But: since I have started working with traffic shaping, I have found almost no
current documentation or tools.
- All the HOWTOs are old (though still useful).
- The LARTC.org index page does not seem to have been touched since 2005.
- The LARTC mailing list went down in 2005 and is still down.
- The latest upstream changelog for tcng is 2004.
- The tcng sourceforge page hasn't been touched since 2004.
Am I looking at all the wrong places? Where is the activity?
And: is tcng obsolete? Should I continue learning how to use it?
Thanks.

Hi, I went through the exact same question a few times ago when I started
studying the TC implementation. All the material is old but, the thing is,
it didn't exactly move for years since the algorithms are satisfying enough
for most needs.

LARTC is a good source, but I like this one too
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Traffic-Control-HOWTO/

After, the sources codes of the kernel (net/sched) are the best
information sources, with the manpages of iproute2
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/iproute2


Now, tcng... I don't know what to say, I never personnally used it,
neither got the need for it. I suppose not a lot of people use it.
If you have implementation questions, the best place is the netdev mailing
list.

Good luck,
Julien

[sasha]

Hi

I think the best documentation for tcng can be found here http://linux-ip.net/ among the linux-ip.pdf guide which is a must have.

Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: Julien Vehent [mailto:***@linuxwall.info]
Sent: dimanche 14 mars 2010 15:04
To: green
Cc: debian-firewall List
Subject: Re: tcng

Post by green
I recently discovered tcng; it seems like a great tool.
But: since I have started working with traffic shaping, I have found almost no
current documentation or tools.
- All the HOWTOs are old (though still useful).
- The LARTC.org index page does not seem to have been touched since 2005.
- The LARTC mailing list went down in 2005 and is still down.
- The latest upstream changelog for tcng is 2004.
- The tcng sourceforge page hasn't been touched since 2004.
Am I looking at all the wrong places? Where is the activity?
And: is tcng obsolete? Should I continue learning how to use it?
Thanks.

Hi, I went through the exact same question a few times ago when I started
studying the TC implementation. All the material is old but, the thing is,
it didn't exactly move for years since the algorithms are satisfying enough
for most needs.

LARTC is a good source, but I like this one too
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Traffic-Control-HOWTO/

After, the sources codes of the kernel (net/sched) are the best
information sources, with the manpages of iproute2
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/iproute2


Now, tcng... I don't know what to say, I never personnally used it,
neither got the need for it. I suppose not a lot of people use it.
If you have implementation questions, the best place is the netdev mailing
list.

Good luck,
Julien

[green]

Post by Julien Vehent
Hi, I went through the exact same question a few times ago when I started
studying the TC implementation. All the material is old but, the thing is,
it didn't exactly move for years since the algorithms are satisfying enough
for most needs.

So it's close enough to perfect that it just remains the same? That's an
interesting thought.

Post by Julien Vehent
LARTC is a good source
Traffic-Control-HOWTO

Yeah, I've been using those.

Post by Julien Vehent
the sources codes of the kernel (net/sched) are the best information sources

Well, I suppose I could dig around in the kernel sources I have here...

Post by Julien Vehent
the manpages of iproute2

Yeah, I've used those also.

Post by Julien Vehent
Now, tcng... I don't know what to say, I never personnally used it,
neither got the need for it. I suppose not a lot of people use it.
If you have implementation questions, the best place is the netdev mailing
list.

Thanks. For now I am using tc in a script. I like the idea behind tcng but I
am not very familiar with C so the syntax is uncomfortable to me.

[green]

Post by Julien Vehent
Hi, I went through the exact same question a few times ago when I started
studying the TC implementation. All the material is old but, the thing is,
it didn't exactly move for years since the algorithms are satisfying enough
for most needs.

Oops, that last one was all a misquote. Thanks for your comments Julien.

[Julien Vehent]

Do you, by any chance, happen to speak french ?
Because I'm finishing an article on TC to publish in a french magazine, I
spent the last week doing deep research in the kernel and around, and most
the material would probably interest you.

I won't, however, translate it into english before at least 6 months, when
the editor releases it under Creative Commons.

Post by green

Post by Julien Vehent
Hi, I went through the exact same question a few times ago when I started
studying the TC implementation. All the material is old but, the thing is,
it didn't exactly move for years since the algorithms are satisfying enough
for most needs.

Oops, that last one was all a misquote. Thanks for your comments Julien.

[Sir Conquer]

Post by Julien Vehent
Do you, by any chance, happen to speak french ?

Even if we don't - Google does! :-)

Post by Julien Vehent
Because I'm finishing an article on TC to publish in a french magazine, I
spent the last week doing deep research in the kernel and around, and most
the material would probably interest you.

Sounds very interesting! What magazine will that be in?

Post by Julien Vehent
I won't, however, translate it into english before at least 6 months, when
the editor releases it under Creative Commons.

Is there a website one can check for the status of this publication? Would also be great if you drooped a note here announcing its availability.

[green]

Post by Sir Conquer

Post by Julien Vehent
Do you, by any chance, happen to speak french ?

Even if we don't - Google does! :-)

Indeed...

Post by Sir Conquer
Is there a website one can check for the status of this publication? Would
also be great if you drooped a note here announcing its availability.

[Julien Vehent]

Post by Sir Conquer

Post by Julien Vehent
Do you, by any chance, happen to speak french ?

Even if we don't - Google does! :-)

I'd rather do the translation myself than let this stuff transform my text
into some un-understandable junk.

Post by Sir Conquer

Post by Julien Vehent
Because I'm finishing an article on TC to publish in a french magazine, I
spent the last week doing deep research in the kernel and around, and most
the material would probably interest you.

Sounds very interesting! What magazine will that be in?

Gnu Linux Mag France : http://www.gnulinuxmag.com/

Post by Sir Conquer

Post by Julien Vehent
I won't, however, translate it into english before at least 6 months, when
the editor releases it under Creative Commons.

Is there a website one can check for the status of this publication?

Would

Post by Sir Conquer
also be great if you drooped a note here announcing its availability.

There is: http://www.unixgarden.com/
But they only publish french articles, as soon as they release it under
CC, I'll upload the french and translated versions to my wiki:
http://wiki.linuxwall.info/doku.php

I can also drop a line here if you'd like :)

Post by Sir Conquer
--
"For I Have Tasted the Fruit"
.
.
...

[green]

Post by Julien Vehent

Is there a website one can check for the status of this publication? Would
also be great if you drooped a note here announcing its availability.

There is: http://www.unixgarden.com/
But they only publish french articles, as soon as they release it under
http://wiki.linuxwall.info/doku.php
I can also drop a line here if you'd like :)

That would be great; thanks.

[green]

Post by Julien Vehent
Do you, by any chance, happen to speak french ?

Unfortunately, no.

Post by Julien Vehent
Because I'm finishing an article on TC to publish in a french magazine, I
spent the last week doing deep research in the kernel and around, and most
the material would probably interest you.
I won't, however, translate it into english before at least 6 months, when
the editor releases it under Creative Commons.

That's great that it will be released, and I look forward to finding it when it
is available in English.

[sasha]

Dans quel magazine ton article sera-t-il publié ? J'aime beaucoup Unixgarden , MISC est un tres bon journal.

COrdialement

-----Original Message-----
From: Julien Vehent [mailto:***@linuxwall.info]
Sent: mardi 16 mars 2010 23:35
To: green
Cc: debian-firewall List
Subject: Re: tcng

Do you, by any chance, happen to speak french ?
Because I'm finishing an article on TC to publish in a french magazine, I
spent the last week doing deep research in the kernel and around, and most
the material would probably interest you.

I won't, however, translate it into english before at least 6 months, when
the editor releases it under Creative Commons.

Post by green

Post by Julien Vehent
Hi, I went through the exact same question a few times ago when I started
studying the TC implementation. All the material is old but, the thing is,
it didn't exactly move for years since the algorithms are satisfying enough
for most needs.

Oops, that last one was all a misquote. Thanks for your comments Julien.

[sasha]

Dans quel magazine ton article sera-t-il publié ? J'aime beaucoup Unixgarden , MISC est un tres bon journal.

COrdialement

-----Original Message-----
From: Julien Vehent [mailto:***@linuxwall.info]
Sent: mardi 16 mars 2010 23:35
To: green
Cc: debian-firewall List
Subject: Re: tcng

Do you, by any chance, happen to speak french ?
Because I'm finishing an article on TC to publish in a french magazine, I
spent the last week doing deep research in the kernel and around, and most
the material would probably interest you.

I won't, however, translate it into english before at least 6 months, when
the editor releases it under Creative Commons.

Post by green

Post by Julien Vehent
Hi, I went through the exact same question a few times ago when I started
studying the TC implementation. All the material is old but, the thing is,
it didn't exactly move for years since the algorithms are satisfying enough
for most needs.

Oops, that last one was all a misquote. Thanks for your comments Julien.

[Ulises M. Alvarez]

Post by Julien Vehent
Do you, by any chance, happen to speak french ?
Because I'm finishing an article on TC to publish in a french magazine, I
spent the last week doing deep research in the kernel and around, and most
the material would probably interest you.

Hi:

I don't speak French but I can read it. Where we can read your article?

Regards.

[Julien Vehent]

I suspected there would be some interest for it :)

The only control I have on it right now is on the last chapter I'm trying
to write (It's some 20ich letter pages for now). After that, I send it to
the editor in chief who will decide on the publication date and, later, the
release date.

I'm sorry guys, but that's just how much control I have on it.

I'll keep you updated.

Post by Ulises M. Alvarez

Post by Julien Vehent
Do you, by any chance, happen to speak french ?
Because I'm finishing an article on TC to publish in a french magazine, I
spent the last week doing deep research in the kernel and around, and most
the material would probably interest you.

I don't speak French but I can read it. Where we can read your article?
Regards.
--
Ulises M. Alvarez.
http://sophie.fata.unam.mx/

[Julien Vehent]

Hey guys,

Just some follow up on this TC article thing.
I've got the confirmation that it will be published in the next issue on
GNU/Linux Magazine in France (in fact, it should even make it to the front
page). So those of you who read french will be able to get it around the
24th of April.

For the others, I'm planning on making an english translation (help is
welcome) and release it as soon as the french article is released. That
should be around august/september.
It's definitely collaborative work, so comments/additions/contributions
will be most welcome (especially on HFSC, I didn't cover this one).

Best,
Julien

[Nacer ADAMOU]

Hi,

Post by Julien Vehent
Hey guys,
Just some follow up on this TC article thing.
I've got the confirmation that it will be published in the next issue on
GNU/Linux Magazine in France (in fact, it should even make it to the front
page). So those of you who read french will be able to get it around the
24th of April.

That's great! I am a GNU/Linux Magazine reader from Cameroon.

Post by Julien Vehent
For the others, I'm planning on making an english translation (help is
welcome) and release it as soon as the french article is released. That
should be around august/september.
It's definitely collaborative work, so comments/additions/contributions
will be most welcome (especially on HFSC, I didn't cover this one).

Feel free to contact me for this, I would really be glad to help.

Post by Julien Vehent
Best,
Julien

Cheers

[Julien Vehent]

Hey guys,

18 months later.... the translation took longer than I thought it
would, be it's there:

http://wiki.linuxwall.info/doku.php/en:ressources:dossiers:networking:traffic_control

It's still a work in progress, and I intent to cover more algorithms
than in the original paper. Feel free to comment and add your thoughts.

Julien

Post by Julien Vehent
Hey guys,
Just some follow up on this TC article thing.
I've got the confirmation that it will be published in the next issue on
GNU/Linux Magazine in France (in fact, it should even make it to the front
page). So those of you who read french will be able to get it around the
24th of April.
For the others, I'm planning on making an english translation (help is
welcome) and release it as soon as the french article is released. That
should be around august/september.
It's definitely collaborative work, so
comments/additions/contributions
will be most welcome (especially on HFSC, I didn't cover this one).
Best,
Julien

[green]

Post by sasha
I think the best documentation for tcng can be found here
http://linux-ip.net/ among the linux-ip.pdf guide which is a must have.

Okay, thanks.

[sasha]

Hi

I think the best documentation for tcng can be found here http://linux-ip.net/ among the linux-ip.pdf guide which is a must have.

Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: Julien Vehent [mailto:***@linuxwall.info]
Sent: dimanche 14 mars 2010 15:04
To: green
Cc: debian-firewall List
Subject: Re: tcng

Post by green
I recently discovered tcng; it seems like a great tool.
But: since I have started working with traffic shaping, I have found almost no
current documentation or tools.
- All the HOWTOs are old (though still useful).
- The LARTC.org index page does not seem to have been touched since 2005.
- The LARTC mailing list went down in 2005 and is still down.
- The latest upstream changelog for tcng is 2004.
- The tcng sourceforge page hasn't been touched since 2004.
Am I looking at all the wrong places? Where is the activity?
And: is tcng obsolete? Should I continue learning how to use it?
Thanks.

Hi, I went through the exact same question a few times ago when I started
studying the TC implementation. All the material is old but, the thing is,
it didn't exactly move for years since the algorithms are satisfying enough
for most needs.

LARTC is a good source, but I like this one too
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Traffic-Control-HOWTO/

After, the sources codes of the kernel (net/sched) are the best
information sources, with the manpages of iproute2
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/iproute2


Now, tcng... I don't know what to say, I never personnally used it,
neither got the need for it. I suppose not a lot of people use it.
If you have implementation questions, the best place is the netdev mailing
list.

Good luck,
Julien

[Cory Oldford]

Just use tc it has all the bells and whistles.
--
Cory Oldford
PeaceWorks Computer Consulting
#2 - 396 Assiniboine Ave, Winnipeg
204 480 0314 --or-- 519 725 7875, ext 610.

----- Original Message -----
From: "sasha" <***@semlex.net>
To: "Julien Vehent" <***@linuxwall.info>, "green" <***@gmail.com>
Cc: "debian-firewall List" <debian-***@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:37:12 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: RE: tcng

Hi

I think the best documentation for tcng can be found here http://linux-ip.net/ among the linux-ip.pdf guide which is a must have.

Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: Julien Vehent [mailto:***@linuxwall.info]
Sent: dimanche 14 mars 2010 15:04
To: green
Cc: debian-firewall List
Subject: Re: tcng

Post by green
I recently discovered tcng; it seems like a great tool.
But: since I have started working with traffic shaping, I have found almost no
current documentation or tools.
- All the HOWTOs are old (though still useful).
- The LARTC.org index page does not seem to have been touched since 2005.
- The LARTC mailing list went down in 2005 and is still down.
- The latest upstream changelog for tcng is 2004.
- The tcng sourceforge page hasn't been touched since 2004.
Am I looking at all the wrong places? Where is the activity?
And: is tcng obsolete? Should I continue learning how to use it?
Thanks.

Hi, I went through the exact same question a few times ago when I started
studying the TC implementation. All the material is old but, the thing is,
it didn't exactly move for years since the algorithms are satisfying enough
for most needs.

LARTC is a good source, but I like this one too
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Traffic-Control-HOWTO/

After, the sources codes of the kernel (net/sched) are the best
information sources, with the manpages of iproute2
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/iproute2


Now, tcng... I don't know what to say, I never personnally used it,
neither got the need for it. I suppose not a lot of people use it.
If you have implementation questions, the best place is the netdev mailing
list.

Good luck,
Julien
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